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Poster: gang1027 Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: calling all heads please help

I am doing a paper in one of my college classes about a musical culture, I chose dead heads. Any and all information will be helpful and greatly appreciated. I mostly want to know what has drawn you personally to the music, whether it be drugs or your a guitar player and Jerry was an idol.

questions to get you rolling...

do you play any instuments? if so what?
the experience that led u to the bus?

please help. Thank you all in advance.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:12am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: calling all heads please help

Play the bass. Had a older friend who was a deadhead and he brought me to a show. Took a couple times but the rest is history.

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Poster: high flow Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:30am
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I'm in it for the drugs.

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Poster: ducats Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:23pm
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nothing beats chasing the dragon

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Poster: jglynn1.2 Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:51pm
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http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/155898

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Poster: rastamon Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:22pm
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yeah, in it for the drugs! I loved the Dead, but then the acid wore off :(

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Poster: snori Date: Feb 25, 2010 4:21pm
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There's a Keith Richards quote along those lines 'What do Deadheads say when they run out of drugs ?' 'What's that horrible noise?'.

But what would he know ? He never played anything worth hearing after Jumping Jack Flash.

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Poster: warpHrat Date: Feb 27, 2010 8:11am
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never need any drugs, except to handle jerry's drug guitar.

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Poster: gang1027 Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:35pm
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thanks all and for the record i am an avid dead listener and got on the bus under the influence of lsd and play guitar and am passionate bout music in general and just would love to hear anymore anyone has to say :)

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Poster: Miss Divine Date: Feb 26, 2010 2:09am
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Hi!

I play a bit of banjo and guitar, and I was looking for something new to listen to and someone gave me a tape copy of Live/Dead....never looked back.

MD

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Poster: Finster Baby Date: Feb 25, 2010 6:07pm
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Don't play an instrument. Have no musical ability whatsoever. Stopped taking drugs years ago. Still love the music. The extended crowd I hungout with in high school had a bunch of Dead Heads. Had tapes and albums for a couple of years before I saw the band live. Remember more about the scene than the music from show number one. Took mini road trips to my next couple of shows. It was like a little adventure. The scene was cool and we always had a good time, so we kept going back for more. I would still listen and enjoy the music, but I really believe if it hadn't been such a blast going to the shows, I probably wouldn't have gotten into them as much as I have.

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Poster: JP70 Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:02pm
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Hey gang,

There's something inherently uplifting about beautiful, artful expression. I guess it's why all humans like the ocean, sunset etc...So we all seek that aesthetic and the Grateful Dead answer that need in us with their (I think they'd like us to say, "our") music.
As an 11 year old, 40 years ago it was cool that I understood--or I thought I understood--more advanced musical concepts that the Dead use, such as 6 part harmonies, sophisticated improvisation as well as crossing various genres. I felt I belonged to an exclusive "cool" club.
So I guess we all seek that aesthetic and we all wanna belong somewhere cool.

Jonathan
jpetruck1@yahoo.com

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Poster: warpHrat Date: Feb 26, 2010 5:30pm
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What a dumbass question.....

gathering.jpg

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 9:10am
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Welcome and good luck, gang! Excellent topic. However, I fear that reposting all the posts which have covered this will be a bit much to expect. As a kid in college, I assume you can techno wiz with the best of em, right? So, I'd suggest a nice library esque exercise in which you search (above, be sure to click "forums") and you'll find a treasure of info from all of us on this, but in many diff threads...on the other hand, SDH churns out CLIFF's notes (get it? har...that was good, eh?) on just this subject matter regularly, and could probably do your entire term paper for a hefty fee.

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Poster: SomeDarkHollow Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:17am
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Who me?

Just because I have a website whyworkwhensomeoneelsehasalreadyitdoneit,probablymuchbetterthanyoucouldeverdo.socoughupthecashandletsomeonewhoknowswhatheyaredoingtakeashot.com doesn't mean I endorse the use of "Cliff" notes.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 25, 2010 11:49am
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At your discretion, if I may rely on my usual 5% "finder's fee", my work is done here.

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Poster: fenario80 Date: Feb 25, 2010 10:20am
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no musical ability at all
as a HS freshman in 1977 an older friend tried to break my Elton John habit by selling me his used copy of Europe '72 for $3 I loved that record, but did not see them until a stadium show in spring 1979 which I totally did not get (and forever after pretty much hated seeing them outdoors). A few months later I went to 9/02/1979 in Augusta ME and saw the light. My aversion to outdoor shows does not include 9/06/1980 Lewiston, which is just a kick-ass show by any standard. The weather was so perfect - very still with hints of rain - and Phil was so loud, that it didn't really feel like an outdoor show.
That's all I got. Cheers.

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Poster: cush212 Date: Feb 25, 2010 3:06pm
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In high school (mostly the high part) in the late 60's I was into all of the SF/LA music, but there was just something about the Dead that put them on a whole different level... Then I got to hear them live for the 1st time in Nov. of '67 and nothing has been the same since!

On sirius radio they have a little blurb with people saying "I'm a Deadhead because..." Well, I'm a Deadhead because I don't know what else to be... Or how to be anything else for that!

I don't play any instruments...

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Poster: St. Dilbert Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:48pm
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I had to sober up to get "it". I also had eye contact with Jerry just before they went into Tennessee Jed at my first show (http://www.archive.org/details/gd82-08-06.sonyecm.norman.7288.sbeok.shnf). I know that TJ will irk some of the guys on this forum, but it set into motion a long term love affair with the band.

I do play the harmonica. I tend to listen to the music as a musician would. It truly opens the senses naturally. I have never used drugs while listen to the music, but I have gotten high from the music.

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Poster: gang1027 Date: Feb 26, 2010 9:39am
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awesome and TJ is too one of my favs

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Poster: groovernut Date: Feb 26, 2010 5:04pm
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TJ is goofy asses song! It can wreck a set for me.

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Poster: groovernut Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:57pm
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yeah, sex drugs and rock and roll....

I agree with WT. Do some research round here. Plenty o stuff to grab onto. (freakin listen!!!) Don't expect folks to hand it to you...your gonna have to dig a bit deeper to get the nugs bro...

Remember being a deadhead is sometimes considered liking the dead too much for you own good. Doing your own thing is encouraged. Not looking to "the man" for affirmation is expected. Don't forget to do everything in excess either. It's not shall we say always a good thing....

If you do a good job, your research is going to take you much longer and be much more demanding than if you had chooses some other band.

Oh and remember once you down the rabbit hole, you not going back out......

Are you sure you are ready for this? It's not to late to change your topic....


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Poster: gang1027 Date: Feb 25, 2010 8:38pm
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haha thanks for the warning but i was so far in before this topic was selected i chose this topic because of my own personal love for the dead im 22 and have seen all living members at least once each and the past 2 incarnations, Furthur at barton hall was an amazing time :) im more interested to see the parallels of my story with those of others

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Poster: groovernut Date: Feb 26, 2010 4:32pm
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Hey to answer you question. I'm not truly a musician. Messed around on the guitar, trumpet and piano. Never got good.
I was drawn to the GD because like me they and the heads where misfits. I stuck around for the adventure and excitement! I was able to travel and meet fun people. It opened up a new lifestyle to me. Being a teenager I was impressionable and the scene left it's mark on my values and philosophy. By 91-92 I was out. Did not want to end up totally burned out, and honestly the shows where very hit and miss quality wise! They where always a good time though. Had a chance to watch some folks fuk there lives up up very effectively....Drifted away, Jerry died, I did not look back until I saw "the Dead" play in L.A. 18-19 years later!!!!
While it was lackluster it was a shock remembering and realizing that so many of my values where formed back in the scene.... good and bad.

Unlike then now it's all about the music for me. Now we all these SB's to explore. The circus has closed down, honestly there is not good post Jerry lineup... it's history now baby.

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Poster: gang1027 Date: Feb 27, 2010 7:15am
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thanks for taking my question seriously, and i completely understand that sentiment, i believe that feeling is quite widespread....i personally dont like comparing the grateful dead to any of the post jerry incarnations or w/e u want to call them

but i agree...'72 is the year i cant stop listening to and i dont think john k (as great as he is with furthur) will ever get back to those glory days, but is that really their goal, i dont know

as much research, personal and from others, i have done leads me to believe many people are in it for the scene as opposed to the music which i understand but dont completely agree with

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Poster: William Tell Date: Feb 27, 2010 7:24am
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Hey Gang--looks like you're getting plenty of replies, but don't neglect that search approach for ooodles more.

I can tell you I am one that was NEVER into it for the scene; my immediate friends, yes, but none of the rest. Music, music, music!

I fit a fairly typical pattern, though probably more for the older folks here: teenager in late 60s, introducing to SF bands via older brothers...loved them with the albums first, of course, and then started going myself in HS in 74, and stopped going in 82 when I felt the scene was too big, and the music dropping off in quality. Sorta put them on the back burner for 20 yrs, but came back with the digi age in the past 5 yrs, and this place in particular to be more into the music than ever before. Early era only for me these days: 65-71.

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Poster: groovernut Date: Feb 27, 2010 11:01am
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sounds like a generational thing... by the time I was old enough to go the times had changed things substantially.
In many ways I envy the older generation, except now they like totally ancient!

Hey btw, you gotta realize that by the late 80 and 90's the scene was way bigger than the music. It was natural to be drawn to the scene since it was overshadowing the music. In the 70's I imagine this was not quite the case.

In the end all roads lead to the archive...back to the music.

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Poster: gang1027 Date: Feb 27, 2010 10:20pm
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interesting insight....... i was born in '87 so i missed well basically the whole damn thing...could be a blessing in disguise i suppose...do you or anyone else think the overwhelming growth of the scene had anything to do with the drop in quality or should that be blamed on jerrys deteriorating health and so on?

a point ive never thought to explore until now

thank you very much

also in my opinion i think the scene now cares less and less about the music and more and more about the party...which saddens me...my favorite thing to do is listen to the old hippies because the seem to have a very deep understanding of the whole

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Poster: Stargazin Date: Feb 27, 2010 11:25pm
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hey gang 1027, the music is what got me into it. Born in 1976, so when I was 15 I got into American Beauty, Live Dead, Skullfuck. The best shit I had ever heard. What was that? 1993? Good shit, good music. Those were good times. The scene was a huge bonus. That was also the time when raves were starting to go off. Let me tell you, I have been going to shows for a long time and the one constant is the people who come for the music, keep coming. There are many stories of course. Let me tell you my perspective of the last 2 years of Jerry shows was pretty much colored by being that age, going on 18, and the power of what I saw and experienced at those shows was very formative. The music at those shows in 94-95 did, however, mostly suck except for Drums which was amazing at every show I saw regardless of how much Jerry bagged the whole thing. He did have his moments though. I heard a fabulous first-set Jerry in 1993. And one of the more epic moments was So Many Roads at RFK in 1995. In my opinion the last really magically epic moment, if not Unbroken Chain in Philly in the spring of 95, was Terrapin in Pittsburgh that summer at that amazing rain show. You see, the Dead were always about magic and when it was there, it was there and you knew it. Like this last weekend at Radio City Music Hall, Phil and Bobby brought it. And we brought it too. So it's good to just go to a show and get it on. That's what I learned then and it's still true now. Enjoy!!!

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Poster: SkyDawg Date: Feb 28, 2010 12:18am
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Glad to hear you came on board then!

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Feb 25, 2010 2:41pm
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It gets me laid, although the patchouli oil smell takes a little time getting used to.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Feb 25, 2010 3:34pm
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Nice....!

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Poster: Shooting Dark Star Date: Feb 27, 2010 11:44am
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Why am I a deadhead? I think I like most of us were at some point in our lives, different. We marched to the beat of a different drummer. And when we saw our first show we said, HEY, this is ME! This is exactly what I was looking for! Yes the "scene" grabbed me in 1987. I loved the liberalness, the drugs, the love, the comraderie, the sense of brotherhood that I had longed for in my young life. I was 23 years old when I first saw them in my hometown. That's why I first boarded the bus. Why am I still riding first class you ask? Even though the scene wore off, life beckoned, marraige, children, work...... I had begun in 1988 to trade cassette analog tapes with other deadheads all over America. I discovered beautiful, mindful, life changing, music. Not just any music, but something that reached my mind, made me think, music that could take me places even though my body sat still. Hearing music made even before I had even heard of the Grateful Dead, was blissful. To this day, 23 years later there is nothing that compares to what I hear daily. From shear rock and roll like 68 versions of Viola Lee Blues and 71 versions of Hard to Handle to 1991 ballads of Standing on the Moon. The archive is so vast, so deep so exploritory, I cannot fathom ever becoming bored with this. I do listen to other genres of music, mostly jazz, bluegrass, even southern gospel, but even these types of music are just frames from which the Grateful Dead laid the foundation. In a way, being a deadhead is religious. You have to just have faith I guess. Hope this helps.